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DLUG Events of 2005

Here are summaries of our events we had in 2005. Our usual meeting time is 7 - 9 p.m. the third Thursday each month. All meetings are free and open to the public unless stated otherwise. See maps and cue sheets for directions.

December 2005

December 2005 meeting

No topic was scheduled for our December meeting and I was unable to attend. Paul Visscher provided the following meeting summary. Thanks Paul!

  • Rob Caldwell talked about drive geometry and something about setting a c/h/s offset helping performance. I didn't really follow what exactly he was talking about.
  • GT talked about some old computer hardware (spurred by the CHS discussion)
  • We talked about a new version of SATA (I think?) and about hot-swappable SATA enclosures and huge SATA arrays (multiple terabytes)
  • Someone asked about how to get CSS encoded DVDs working in Ubuntu. The answer is: install libdvdread3 and then run the shell script in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/. That will install the magic parts that let you decode CSS.
  • There was some stuff I'm forgetting.

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November 2005

November 2005 meeting

We started the meeting with Q & A and some announcements. They included the following:

  • GT asked about using a printer which has only a proprietary Windows driver in a mixed OS environment, using Linux as a print server. Can it be done using raw mode? No clear answer was presented, but a few possibilities were discussed.
  • Moe Albaugh asked for help getting his HP 5c SCSI scanner to work. Several suggestions were made, but most likely the problem is with the proprietary SCSI controller that was included with the scanner. Use lspci to check that SCSI controller is recognized. If not, look for suitable a module, or replace it with a well supported one, such as Adaptec. He can probably find one at Midwest Surplus Electronics or Mendelson's for a reasonable price.
  • Gary Turner mentioned the need for an experienced eBay seller to help sell some unique equipment that we occasionally have donated to OTAP. An example of such equipment is a 48-volt UPS rack which we recently received. Some common equipment, which we have far more of than we can ever use, will be sold at very low cost. Some of it is listed in the December issue of The DataBus.
  • Someone asked about using a Winmodem. In general, it's best to avoid them, but some suggestions included checking Linmodems.org to see if his particular modem can be made to work with Linux. Someone else suggested using an external USB modem, but some of them are also Winmodems. Best to use an external serial modem. There's a fair chance that OTAP has some available.
  • Elliot Lake asked about using an external USB hard drive. They should be USB Mass Storage compatible and "just work". Dan Tasch suggested that those with Cyprus chip set work well. Firewire was also suggested. Do not use USB 1.1 - you will be quite disappointed if you do!
  • Grant Root had several Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" CD sets (Live CD and Installation CD) for PC Intel x86, AMD64, and even a couple PowerPC sets to give out. Thanks Grant and Ubuntu!
  • GT announced that tickets for the DMA® Holiday Dinner to be held Wednseday, Dec. 7, are still available.
  • Dave Lundy asked for recommendations for wireless PCMCIA card for Linux. Grant said the Belkin 802.11g card (part # F5D7010) worked well for him with Ubuntu. Someone else cautioned that even though brand XYZ ver. abc 802.11g card works well, there's no assurance the next version of the same card will work because many vendors have a habit of switching chipsets from one version to the next.

For our main presentation, we had an excellent Asterisk demo by Jeff Coyle this month. Asterisk is an open source PBX system that runs on Linux, BSD and MacOSX. He demonstrated some of the many features of Astersik and showed some scripting examples and played some sound samples using a couple of the text-to-speech options. Jeff also had an Asterisk sandbox for everyone to play with, which consisted of an Asterisk server, and a wireless router running DD-WRT on the WRT54GS. Attendees were all be given SSH and Web access to the box. Jeff's presentation slides are at www.darksource.org/asterisk. We suspect that Andrew Lynch's next project will be to set up an Asterisk system so he can control his MythTV system via a phone. grin

After the meeting, about half of us adjourned to TGI Friday's for food and lively conversation.

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October 2005

October 2005 meeting

Ken Phelps talked about ICMP Redirects this month.

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Ohio LinuxFest 2005

Three of us tested the waters in 2003 at the first ever Ohio LinuxFest and liked what we saw and heard. Last year, nine of us made the short trip to Columbus for the 2nd Ohio LinuxFest. It was originally scheduled to be held on the Ohio State University campus, but due to increased interest, was held in the Hyatt Regency Columbus in downtown Columbus. Everyone I spoke to agreed it was an excellent event. This year, at least 14 of us from the Dayton area attended, and as far as I know, all were very favorably impressed. The show just keeps getting better each year!

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September 2005

September 2005 Installfest

Our last Installfest was held at Sinclair Community College from 10 am–4 pm Saturday, September 24th, 2005 in the Physics Department. As always, Art Ross, Chairman of the Physics Department, was an excellent host.

Considering how many fliers we had distributed for the event, I had expected a larger attendance, but the room was busy all day. One person showed up wanting a PowerPC distro, which we didn't have. We would have something available, had he made a request a few days in advance. On the other hand, a couple people did request specific distros (Asterisk at Home & Clark Connect), which I downloaded and burned, but nobody bought any of them. I'll have copies of all of the following at each Linux SIG meeting for the next couple months.

We had copies of Asterisk at Home, Clark Connect, Damn Small Linux 1.5, Fedora Core 4, Kanotix 2005-03, KNOPPIX 4.0.1 DVD, KnoppMyth R5A16, Mandriva Linux Limited Edition 2005 (formerly Mandrake). MythDora 1.5 (MythTV 0.18.1 on Fedora Core 3), SimplyMepis 3.3.2.test03, SimplyMepis 3.3.1-1, & MepisLite 3.3.1-2.test03, SuSE 9.3 eval, TheOpenCD v3.0, SmoothWall Express 2.0, Ubuntu 5.04 (and 5.10 preview), Ultimate Boot CD 3.3, a handy bootable CD full of diagnostics & utilities, and Xandros Desktop OS Version 3 Open Circulation Edition for $1 / CD and $3 / DVD, and some other odds and ends for free.

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September 2005 meeting

In GT's absence (he and Nancy were at a special DMA board meeting), Paul Ahlquist led tonight's meeting. Paul described a message Chuck allegedly sent to our mailing list and subsequent confusion that ensued in Paul's inimitable style. grin He announced the upcoming Ohio LinuxFest and suggested anyone wanting to carpool send a message to our mailing list. He also mentioned our next Installfest coming up in less than two weeks. Dave Lundy handed out fliers for the event to anyone willing to post them at local schools, work, etc. There were several people here for the first time and Paul asked them to briefly introduce themselves. Someone asked about a good place to find a used P3 computer. Paul suggested eBay and RetroBox. Andrew Lynch suggested using dealnews.com, FreeAfterRebate.info, Techbargains.com, and similar sites to find extremely low prices on new PCs and components.

For our main presentation, Chuck Gelm talked about, and demonstrated (albeit with some technical difficulties), Skype, a free VOIP solution. A couple of Skype's advantages, in addition to being free, are that it supports conference calls and can make calls to POTS phones.

We had one new participant in our monthly key signing event. There was some discussion of GPG fingerprints, since that was what started the message mentioned previously. There was also discussion of firewall security, with the consensus that an external firewall is better than a software firewall running on a desktop PC, although that is better than no firewall at all. That brought up questions about OpenWrt, a Linux distribution for the Linksys WRT54G, and WPA2, the second generation of WPA security. The mantra of the day was "It's worse than you can possibly imagine!" by Paul Visscher.

Several of us enjoyed further conversation and food at TGI Friday's after the meeting.

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August 2005

August 2005 meeting

We had several new people show up this month. Unfortunately, we had nothing planned. Still, I think almost everyone present learned something of value. During the first part of the meeting there was a question about dialing into dmapub. One person was using Kppp, and some things seemed to work but others, such as mutt didn't. It just displayed scrambled lines of text. Kppp is a fine tool, but it is not the correct tool for connecting to dmapub, since there is no ppp daemon running on dmapub. The correct way to login to dmapub is either dialing in using a terminal emulator such as minicom for Linux, Tera Term Pro or comparable for Windows, or ZTerm or similar for Mac OS X. Or, if you are already online with any ISP, use an ssh client.

GT reminded us that our next Installfest is just over a month away - Sept. 24 at Sinclair Community College. See more info here. Grant Root talked briefly about OSCON 2005 which he attended earlier this month and some of the sessions he attended. One he recommended was Chris Shiflett's PHP Security. Grant brought a stack of Software Freedom Day CDs from OSCON. Those CDs are rather unique in that they're both a Live CD version of Ubuntu Linux and have a significant collection of open source Windows software on the same CD. Software Freedom Day 2005 is Sept. 10, and they are expected to have a presence at Computerfest®. Both Nancy Christolear and Jason Cook talked about Computerfest and DLF and some of the positions that still need people to help. There was talk of holding a key signing party at the show, as well as having a talk about why one would want to do that. There are several speakers already scheduled, but could use some more. Grant Root donated a remote control for an iPod mini to one of our new attendees. GT talked about a marathon work session he, Paul Ahlquist, Mike Carr, Ken Phelps, and Dan Tasch had the previous night replacing a GEMAIR server.

A few months ago Ken Phelps had volunteered to talk about ethereal and / or rsync for the June meeting, but there wasn't time due to a communication mixup. Not having a topic scheduled for this month, Ken bravely stepped up to the plate when asked. His presentation wasn't quite a home run, but he described the basics of rsync, a replacement for rcp and demonstrated synchronizing files between two different machines. Thanks, Ken. Hopefully next month we'll all be better prepared. BTW, Unison, another file synchronization utility, was also mentioned.

There was some discussion of web browser security. Someone (was it Paul Visscher?) said he had heard that IE was "safe" to use only seven days last year while Mozilla was considered "safe" 330 days during the same year. Here, safe means that there were no known vulnerabilities for that browser that many days. Sheesh! I found this article that confirms part of that allegation.

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July 2005

July 2005 meeting

This was the first time we tried the new format of having the first half of the meeting for newbies and the second half for advanced subjects. We did not have a newbie presentation scheduled so we entertained questions. We got a lot of them! If you have any suggestions for future topics, please send them to the Linux-SIG-Planning team. Some of the topics discussed were:

  • Linux distros Most distros are based on Debian (use .deb packages and apt-get or some variant), Red Hat (use .rpm packages and up2date, yum, or similar), Slackware (.tgz packages), or some flavor of BSD. Most of the discussion focused on how distros are similar or different in terms of system administration based on their parentage.
  • There was some discussion of network file sharing between Macs, Linux, and Windows using NFS, Samba, and Netatalk. It was generally agreed that Samba would usually be the preferred method. There was also some discussion of file sharing via a shared partition on dual-boot machines. One problem with using FAT32 is the 4 GB file size limitation. Alternate solutions mentioned were the Ext2 File System Driver for Windows NT and Captive (first free NTFS read/write filesystem for Linux). Cygwin was also mentioned, but I'm not sure how it is used for file sharing via a disk partition.
  • Sharing Netscape mail on a dual-boot computer. A user reported that he could access several nested folders in Windows, but could only access the top level folders in Linux. Much confusion ensued, although many suspected he was actually reading his mail in Windows from an IMAP server rather than locally stored files. More investigation is needed.
  • There was some question regarding using a combo video display / capture card vs. separate cards for those functions. Both ATI and nVIDIA make video cards that work well with Linux. An approximately $50 Hauppauge capture card was mentioned, but no specific model was named.
  • There was a fair amount of discussion of DVRs & PVRs. Topics included MythTV, KnoppMyth, comparison of Hauppauge 150 / 250 / 350 TV tuner cards, analog vs. HTDV, over-the-air vs. cable, FireWire, HDMI, etc.

Between the newbie and advanced portions of the meeting, we had a few participants this month (the first time for a couple months) in a GPG key signing party. That was followed by several announcements.

  • GT reminded us that our next Installfest will be Saturday, Sept. 24 at Sinclair Community College. See more info here.
  • Nancy Christolear (co-chairman of Computerfest®) announced that they are seeking speakers and volunteers for their IT team. Computerfest will be Sept. 10-11, 2005.
  • Gary Turner asked people to contact him if you're interested in attending Ohio LinuxFest Saturday, Oct. 1. We'll arrange a carpool.
  • Grant Root announced that he had several copies of Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" CD sets for free.
  • Dave Lundy mentioned that he had several Linux distros available for purchase
  • Grant mentioned the Samsung CLP-550N color laser printer and showed several samples of text, text and graphics, and photos he had printed. They were quite impressive! The photos weren't as good as most current inkjets can produce, but were quite good. The text and color graphics were excellent. It's currently on sale at Dalco for $389.95 through the end of July. This printer includes drivers for several Linux distros.

For the advanced topics portion of the meeting, the dynamic duo of Paul Visscher and Jason Cook collaborated nicely to discuss "Collaborative System Administration". They described their methodoligies and how they use off-the-shelf open source tools, plus some they wrote themselves, to do day-to-day system administration tasks and simultaneously document what they do. Some of the tools they use are PurpleWiki, IRC, sudo, RCS, and "RT: Request Tracker". Slides of this presentation in OpenOffice 2 format are here.

Someone (sorry - I don't know who) donated a copy of the first issue of Make: magazine. It was won by Nancy Christolear. Also, we saw a couple people who had not been present in quite a while. Welcome back Dave Nevel and David Smith!

Several of us enjoyed food, drink, and conversation at the El Rancho Grande Mexican Restaurant & Cantina across the street. After they asked us to leave so they could close, about half a dozen continued conversing in the parking lot enjoying the very pleasant summer evening. It had been stiflingly hot before the meeting!

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June 2005

June 2005 meeting

GT suggested a revised meeting structure which would start at 6:30 and devote approximately the first hour of each meeting for topics aimed at helping get newbies up to speed, followed by a short Q & A period and announcements. After that would be the main presentation(s) of more advanced topics. After discussion of this possible new meeting structure and possibly starting earlier, it was decided to try the new system, but continue starting at 7:00 pm. Other items mentioned before our main presentation were:

  • GT informed us the next Installfest will be Saturday, September 24 in room 4242 at Sinclair Community College.
  • Nancy Christolear reminded us that Computerfest® will be Saturday and Sunday, September 10 & 11. She mentioned that there will not be a Linux Playground at this show and that speakers (people, not magnets and paper cones) are needed.
  • Dave Lundy and Grant Root mentioned that Software Freedom Day will be Saturday, Sept. 10. There was some discussion of how that might be included in or promoted at Computerfest. Mark Lotspaih is the leader of the Dayton area Software Freedom Day team. Due to previous committments, Mark was unable to attend our meeting. Please contact Mark via the above link to participate.
  • Jason Cook is looking for people interested in networking to join the DLF team.
  • GT discussed networking at Hara and is looking for people for a network architecture team.
  • Paul Vissher made a plug for Dayton Perl Mongers, which meets at 119 Valley St. the second Wednesday each month.

If you have any suggestions for topics, or would be willing to make a presentation, please contact the Linux-SIG-Planning team.

Jason Cook talked quite a bit about Xen. Some links he mentioned were xen.sf.net, sources.redhat.com/lvm2, and cfengine.org. He will have his slides available on-line shortly. Ken Phelps had volunteered to talk about ethereal and / or rsync, but we ran out of time.

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May 2005

May 2005 meeting

Our May meeting featured a repeat presentation by Paul Visscher about encryption for the benefit of those who missed his presentation in February and refresh the memories of those who didn't.

GT talked briefly about progress in getting ready for Hamvention. We are providing Internet access for some of the exhibitors. He also mentioned a new magazine, "Make:" for D.I.Y. geeks. Grant mentioned a new O'Reilly book titled "Don't Click on the Blue E!".

We plan to once again hold a brief GPG key signing party. If you have already created a set of keys, but have not exchanged them with our members, please do so at this meeting. If you haven't yet created a set of keys, what are you waiting for? ;-) You will need to be present to participate and bring at least one form of photo ID, printed copies (one for each participant) of your Key ID, Key Type, Hex Fingerprint and Key Size info, and a pen or pencil. And if you don't have your own set of keys yet, there may be a demo of how to do that.

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April 2005

April 2005 meeting

At our April meeting Ken Phelps talked about podcasting, played a few examples, and showed several RSS links to podcasts at ipodder.org. There was some discussion of RSS. Perhaps we'll have a more detailed discussion of RSS at a future meeting.

During Ken's talk about podcasting, someone asked about editing MP3 and other audio files. A very good open source cross-platform audio file editor is Audacity. It can edit Ogg Vorbis, MP3, and WAV sound files. In addition to Linux, Audacity works on Mac OS X and Windows.

Paul Visscher gave a presentation on anonymity networks - specifically Tor, and gave examples of when using such a network might, or might not, be appropriate. He also contrasted it with other anonymity solutions. See the Internet privacy article at wikipedia.org and www.privoxy.org for more info.

Don Corbet talked very briefly about the merger of Mandrake Linux and Conectiva to form Mandriva. He wasn't able to tell us much, but indicated more details would be forthcoming soon. Also, Jason Cook talked very briefly about his experience with configuring and maintaining a large high-speed LAN for Dayton LANfest.

We had planed to once again hold a brief GPG key signing party, but nobody participated.

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March 2005

March 2005 meeting

Our March meeting returned to our usual location in room 145 of the Russ Engineering Center. No topic had been scheduled at that time, so we entertained numerous questions about Linux and other things.

Don Corbet announced that LPI will soon be updating their level 1 exams and is looking for suggestions. Our SIG could be instrumental in this process. This would require a group of half a dozen or so people meeting someting in June or July. Please contact Don if you would like to participate.

We had a couple of Microsoft folks, Matt Hester & Bill Steele, visit us after their MSDN presentation in Beavercreek eariler that day. There was a fair amount of discussion of Windows / Linux interoperability (including Samba and Windows Services for UNIX), IE Content Advisor, GhostBuster, RootkitRevealer, and other security issues. They reminded us that requests / suggestions for improving Windows should be sent to the Microsoft Wish Program.

George Ewing announced free Linux courses at HP Learning Center - Linux 101. GT mentioned that help will be needed setting up Internet access for ARRL and others before Hamvention May 20—22, 2005. Chuck Gelm mentioned his writeup of setting 802.11b at his web site. Andrew Lynch gave a brief overview of DAY-MUG, the Greater Dayton Ohio MythTV User Group. Someone mentioned that they had found the Hauppage WinTV-GO (not the more desirable PVR250 or PVR350) for $20 at dealnews.com. Ken Phelps mentioned the multimedia centric live CD distro dyne:bolic.

The lack of a scheduled topic prompted a query of those present what they would like to have presented, or be willing to present, at future meetings. Suggestions included, in no particular order, were:

  • Multi-OS interoperability (Samba and / or Windows Services for UNIX)
  • Low cost firewall (FREESCO, theWall, ClosedBSD (AKA floppywall), SmoothWall, etc.)
  • webmin (It's best to learn how to administer systems using config files, but webmin makes it easier)
  • Synching PDAs
  • Disk partitioning - A good overview is here
  • Virtual laptop: using a "thumb drive" with a "LiveCD" such as Kanotix, Knoppix, Damn Small Linux, etc.
  • Demo of MythTV or similar PVR installation. Scripted? Seat of Pants? "Franken Myth7quot;?
  • GPL and real world (commercial) implications

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February 2005

Installfest February 2005

Our last Linux Installfest was held in the University of Dayton's McGinnis Center from 10:30 am — 5:00 pm Saturday, February 26th. This event was free and open to the public. In spite of the unusually warm weather for February, several people brought their computer to get assistance with installing Linux.

We had several Linux distributions (AKA distros) available, including Fedora Core 3, Mandrake 10.1 Official, SuSE 9.2 Professional, Ubuntu 4.10, Xandros Desktop OS Open Circulation Edition 2 and 3, and others. We also had some "live CDs" such as FreeSBIE 1.1, Knoppix 3.7, and Kanotix 2005-01. A "live CD" allows you to try Linux without actually installing anything to your hard disk. They are also very useful for testing for hardware compatibility - great if you're considering installing Linux on a laptop, which are often more difficult than on desktop PCs. We also had VidaLinux 1.1 (AKA Gentoo Done Right).

We also had KnoppMyth R4V5 (and R5A10 for those who like the bleeding edge) and help from Andrew Lynch for anyone interested in setting up a MythTV (think build it yourself Tivo without the subscription fee). In addition, we had some utility and special purpose CDs such as SmoothWall 2.0 and Ultimate Boot CD 3.2 full.

The distros we offered were $1 / CD (some distros we provide consist of as many as 5 CDs, but most are fewer) or $3 / DVD. The CDs or DVDs we provide generally have either exactly the same content as, or similar to, but with fewer included applications, as what you could buy off the shelf at Micro Center, etc. for $30 to $90. But they don't include phone or web support, or a printed book. That's what user groups, such as our Linux SIG, are for! Matt Smith was available to help install Gentoo Linux, for those who wanted to get faster performance than they would from other distros.

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February 2005 meeting

About 20 folks eventually found their way to our February meeting in WSU's Health Sciences Building (not our usual location in the Russ Engineering Center). Andrew Lynch gave an enthusiasticly received presentation on MythTV, followed by a lengthy Q & A session. You can see his slides here. Andrew started Greater Dayton OH MythTV User Group last month. Jason Cook suggested using PowerStrip with (gasp) Windows for setting scan rates.

After a lively review of cryptography and discussion of the flaw found in SHA-1, we had our very first GPG keysigning party, organized by Paul Visscher. Six and a half people participated. Ask Ken Phelps about the half person. ;-)

I was unable to join those who adjourned to TGI Friday's after the meeting. I'm sure there was plenty of lively discussion there.

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January 2005

January 2005 meeting

Our January meeting was held in room 140 of WSU's Health Sciences Building and a few of you actually found us. Attendance was quite low, but that was most likely due to the rest of you having the common sense to not try driving that night. The roads were in quite poor condition due to the snow storm.

Paul Visscher gave an interesting presentation about encryption, as it applies to hashing, symmetric/asymmetric key encryption, why RSA works, P and NP, etc. GPG/PGP were briefly discussed in that context. How to use GPG will most likely be discussed in a future meeting, but probably not by Paul. You may review Paul's slides here. Paul offered to conduct a key signing party at next month's meeting and recommends having one each month for the forseeable future.

Due to the very small attendance, little else was discussed. About half of us enjoyed food, drink, and conversation at the El Rancho Grande Mexican Restaurant & Cantina across the street.

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